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Should this group raise its quality standards? 

49%
482 deviants said No, this should be a group for every artst!
33%
323 deviants said Yes, there's too much bad art accepted into the group.
18%
177 deviants said I don't much care, just keep giving me art.

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Swatbot26 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013
I can tell the group is really trying to lower the number of entries...
But anyway, I think anyone should be able to post on the group. I also think that judging people's art that way is just wrong... Constructive critiscism is great, but you cant straight up say which post is "good" and which one is "bad". Everyone has their style...
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PlasticRabbits Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't want to call it "bad" because every artist only ever strives to improve. There are some less than polished pieces that get accepted. But not every MLP group can be an elitist, takes the fun away for the people still trying to learn from it all...
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Tesa-studio Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
My thoughts are mixed on this question. while I do think that everyone should have a chance, but I really dislike is the zero effort, doodled in class while I was bored, didn't even bother to have unlined notebook paper with me, type of drawing. I'm not asking a lot of effort I'm asking for people to care about their art. (as a note graph paper doesn't bother me as much, go figure)
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sp19047 Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
The OTHER MLP Group won't accept anything from me, turns out they don't like Paint stuff.
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RainbowDash2028 Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
this group doesent take bases that have been through paint ether. I hate this group im only in it for the ponies. they should accept all art. its not fair to those people who arnt very good at it.
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JordanDonges Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
then they do not get fine art work my friend
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YuriWolf Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It's been difficult checking the updates, because it's simply bashed with a lot of terrible art.
There's surely 100+ mlp groups out there, where they can post stuff, but as much art that is getting accepted here, it's just too much.
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MasterPeanut94 Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I don't want EqD levels of pickiness and elitism, but yes there should be some control. At least don't accept Pony Creator OCs. It isn't art no matter which way you look at it.
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Ryudenki Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013
The rules already state that ponies made with apps are not accepted into the gallery. I don't know how much of that crap I've deleted from the group gallery.
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cooler94961 Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
As long as the artwork is MLP related and follows the group's rules it should be accepted ^^
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Phendyl Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes There should be a limit. I don't want to hate on anyone at all. There's always that idea that a standard will raise people's art quality.
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macalaniaa Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
just decline unfished/WIP Pictures that would be great (people should submit only finished art)
the quality level should be open for everyone. There are many pictures.. you look at it and you know they were made in 15-20 minutes.. thats just anoying... there should be no quality standart, but people should just put a little effort into their deviations. Just my opinion ;)
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Pony-Berserker Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
With no quality standard at all, some people are discouraged from putting heart into their work, because "it gets accepted anyway".

But it's a minority only.
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macalaniaa Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
nah it's a personal attitude. i always put lots of hours in my pictures and i submit them only if i'm at least 90% satisfied with them. a rise of the quality standart is ok for me too, but the vote shows already that people don't want that :(
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Streetster20 Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013
+1 - limit/decline rough sketches and unfinished things.
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macalaniaa Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
oh i mean unfinished not unfished *lol* ^^
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blackdragonthebad Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013
what the hell is quality standards?
ANSWER ME DAMMIT!
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Rosethethief Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, that's pretty much what :iconmlp-fim: does already.

I had a bit of a talk with the founder about a year or so ago, and he told me that his group was a bit of a spinoff of our group. He also told me that having both groups with quality control would be kind of pointless, (of course, with how big this group has gotten over time, this statement has probably become rather flimsy).

To me, this group is more of a thing for beginning artists, while :iconmlp-fim: was meant for the more skilled.

I don't if that same founder still runs that group, but what he told me makes perfect sense.

But, I can certainly see this as a rising issue. I've already stopped submitting my colorless sketches to this group, simply because I'd rather submit something that was actually complete. Your probably just going to be getting nothing but digital artwork from me this moment on.

Yeah, sorry for lengthy comment, but I just felt like sharing my two cents.
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Ratta-Tatta Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Well it does help people improve if you just keep it as is.
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Pony-Berserker Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
How no quality control helps people improve? If anything they draw gets accepted they have no motivation to improve ;p
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Ratta-Tatta Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
I was just throwing out my two cents on this that's all..... :twocents:
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Cpr-Covet Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Student General Artist
If there is a quality control, it should be stated exactly whats unacceptable. Its easier to refrain from posting lined-paper stuff and wips than stuff that people actually put effort in
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PantherPryde Featured By Owner May 31, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Agreed
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Spiritwolfie333 Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Everyone has their own opinions, so please don't hate on me for posting mine:

My advice is to NOT filter out certain people just because they might 'Need improvement' or whatever. There are WAY too many MLP groups that accept 'Only the BEST pony art', or, 'The best on dA'. I'm not saying that there shouldn't be a limit, for SOME groups, but raising the bar WAAAAAAAAAAAY high up is really mean to people who just want to make art and have fun. So my opinion: Don't filter. If people only accepted 'THE BEST', then people would be leaving the group left and right.
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Pony-Berserker Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
no one says about raising the bar "waaay" high...
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Spiritwolfie333 Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah I know. What I meant was that maybe it would be ok if they raised the bar a LITTLE, but if they DID raise it WAAAAY high, then the group may not be as popular. I might have misworded that. :/
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Ganondox Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I need some place to dump my talentless crap.
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PantherPryde Featured By Owner May 31, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Trashcan maybe? Sorry if you meant that as a joke :/
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Ganondox Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'd rather plaster my talentless crap on large groups on DeviantArt.
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PantherPryde Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
:/ Yeah, that's not gonna work...
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Ganondox Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Except it does.
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PantherPryde Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Unfortunately :/
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loly4678 Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
every can put art on
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caycowa Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013
Give me all the pony art, I can filter it myself. :lol:
Besides it`s so subjective. I can ignore the quote unquote low-qauality art I'm not interested in just the same as I ignore the high-quality art I'm not interested in. The content is more important to me, and that comes in all shades.

There's other pony art groups with quantity control both extreme and fairly lenient, those are options.
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darthrevan1116 Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
sketches should be allowed
like artwork made in lined paper
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PantherPryde Featured By Owner May 31, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Sketches, yes, but not lined paper. There should be at least some sort of limit.
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paxtofettel Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013
I figure that if you go the same route MLP-FiM does with it's quality standards, you risk making a lot of starting artists (or writers for that matter) feel bad that their works are not good enough and not worthy of being critiqued.

In my opinion (though not like anyone cares about what I have to say anyway), I think it's best to keep things how they are now so artists and writers who are not masters can at least receive constructive criticisms and advice in order to better themselves.

Besides, you can always give your index finger a good exercise by clicking away any art you don't like.

Anyway, that's my two cents, take it as you will, or flame me, or whatever.
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PantherPryde Featured By Owner May 31, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Exactly
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AceTrainer44 Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013
I'm sorta a half and half. I think some artist should get there art featured, but if they start to upload to much or spam art, then their art should be withheld from being submitted to the group without a vote or something.
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Orhblin Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
How i think about it: bad art is like badly drawn lines , wrong anatomy, shitty coloring job and so on, but i don't mind that if it's CREATIVE. Pointless art however is something that i just EAT. I get tired of stuff that is just pratise for someone who's still learning the robes. Say i don't mind that they post it, just don't post it in every group they can find, more specifically not a group I would want to watch.
So as it all comes down.

Creative work without technique = good.

Non-creative work without technique = no go.

The nom creative work that doesn't have a point can go too of course, things that is bearable to look at i mean.

Some "artist" has worked for years without improvement, an EFFORT is also very much appriciated in my rule book but really........ This is all my opinions.
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Puffleduck Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think there does need to be a standard, which the admins and mods should talk about and set.
As a sorter, I see most of the art.
The majority is fine, there's the occasional picture that is so poorly done that it's hard to even recognize the character as a pony... o_o
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Red-Soulfire Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Honestly, I think there are pro's and con's to this. If you accept all art, people probably won't be really happy, but they obviously won't be dissapointed. However if you do raise your standards, people will be even happier if they get in, and they'll probably feel some disappointment if they don't.
I'll vote keep it as it is as I can just skip the art I don't like that much personally (Not to be elitist or anything, of course :) ) and just look at the stuff I do like. It's not like a big hassle or anything :3
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TheWrongestTrousers Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Student Digital Artist
The only thing I'd want content-control-wise is just no creepy stuff. IE Porn or those really really weird pregnancy pictures. I just don't know what's up with those and they genuinely terrify me.

Other than that, children MS Paint ahoy!
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PantherPryde Featured By Owner May 31, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
First of all, I agree with you.

Second, I wish I had MS Paint :(
I only have the Windows 7 version of Paint, and it SUCKS! D:< Therefore, I mainly submit artwork I make in deviantART muro
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TheWrongestTrousers Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Windows 7 paint is garbage, I'm with you on that one. I have to work with my shitty old laptop with VISTA on it that actually has a proper MS Paint tool.
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PantherPryde Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Ugh, why do the older versions of Windows computers have a better Paint tool than Windows 7?! What kind of logic is that?! Sorry, but it upsets me that Windows 7 Paint doesn't work well. >:U
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TheWrongestTrousers Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2013  Student Digital Artist
You and me both.
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Spiritwolfie333 Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I agree!
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Red-Soulfire Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I second this . . .
Those pregnancy pictures are damn freaky.
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TheWrongestTrousers Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I would want to know what's going on in those people's heads... but at the same time, I really really don't want to.
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